In a new interview with Brazilian music journalist Igor Miranda, Zakk Wylde was asked about Charlie Benante‘s recent comment that there has been talk of the current lineup of PANTERA releasing a live album. Joining the BLACK LABEL SOCIETY frontman and the ANTHRAX drummer in PANTERA‘s reformed lineup are surviving members Rex Brown (bass) and Philip Anselmo (vocals). Zakk said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET): “Yeah, whatever the fellas wanna do, we knock it out. Let’s be real — it’s a live album every night. People with their phones and everything are recording it anyway, so it doesn’t [matter] to me. You go up there and you play to win every night.”
As for the possibility of new songs from the current PANTERA lineup, Zakk said: “No, we haven’t sat and talked about, like, ‘Oh, guys, let’s get together and write songs,’ or whatnot; there hasn’t been anything like that. I mean, the only discussions we’ll have is just what other new songs we wanna put in the setlist. Like when we put ‘Floods’ in and then we got together at rehearsals, got together over at Phil‘s house, we just rehearsed everything. But no, nothing like… We haven’t been sitting around writing riffs and things like that.”
Miranda also asked Wylde about whether he views the current PANTERA lineup as a tribute or something else. Zakk responded: “Yeah, that’s what I feel it is. It’s not even a tribute. It’s more just a PANTERA celebration. Like whenever we go out and do the ‘Experience Hendrix’ [tours], which I always have a blast when I do that, it’s all of us going out and celebrating Jimi‘s greatness. To me, this is [a] PANTERA celebration. We’re celebrating all the mountains that PANTERA conquered. So that’s what this is.”
Wylde also addressed the fact that he doesn’t exactly reproduce the parts originally written and recorded by late PANTERA guitarist “Dimebag” Darrell Abbott. He said: “Oh, yeah, even if Dime was up there playing the solo to ‘No More Tears’ or ‘Mama I’m Coming Home’, it’s gonna sound like Dime playing the solo to ‘No More Tears’. ‘Cause he has his touch and his feels. Like when Randy Rhoads was playing BLACK SABBATH songs, it sounds like Randy Rhoads playing BLACK SABBATH songs. You listen to the ‘Tribute’ album [from Ozzy Osbourne], when Saint Rhoads was playing ‘Iron Man’ and he was playing ‘Paranoid’ and ‘Children Of The Grave’, it sounds like Randy playing BLACK SABBATH songs. It’s Randy‘s guitar tone and Randy‘s touch and Randy‘s playing. But that’s what makes it cool. Yeah, to me, it’s just common sense. Dime just sounds like Dime no matter what he’s playing.”
The reformed PANTERA is headlining a number of major festivals across North America, South America and Europe and staging some of its own headline concerts. They are also supporting METALLICA on a massive stadium tour in 2024.
It was first reported in July 2022 that Anselmo and Brown would unite with Wylde and Benante for a world tour under the PANTERA banner.
Three months ago, Zakk spoke to Ultimate Guitar about the decision to tour with a reformed version of PANTERA. The lineup has reportedly been given a green light by the estates of PANTERA‘s founders, drummer Vincent “Vinnie Paul” Abbott and guitarist “Dimebag” Darrell Abbott: “I feel [Dimebag] all the time. Even when we were getting ready to do the [PANTERA tour in 2022], [the early] rehearsals, and they were just figuring out how we were gonna do this, there’d be signs all over the place, whether [it was] a license plate that would be, like, ‘333’ [three being Dimebag‘s favorite number], or I’d run into like a Dimebag license plate in the middle of nowhere. It was just, like, him just pushing this thing along, willing it to happen. So he’s just always around. When we were in New York, just like signs, when we just did [a headlining show at] the [Madison Square] Garden [in February 2024], my wife Barbaranne was, like, Check this out.’ Something came up and it just reminded us of Dime, and I was like, ‘Wow, that’s crazy.’ Or we would look on our phone and it would be ‘333’. It’s just these signs everywhere. And I could see Dime just doing it, going, ‘I hope these idiots realize it’s me sending these signs.’ [Laughs]”
In a recent interview with Sweetwater, Brown stated about touring with PANTERA again: “The last show, man, I had a creepy, like a cold — something came by me. It felt like there was a cold feeling. And I’ve gotten this a couple of times before. When we were down recording with Charlie — me and Charlie just went down [in late 2022], put up eighty to a hundred hours of tape before Zakk [started rehearsing with us]. Zakk was still on the road. So we wanted to get the bass and the drum real tight, and we had this scratch guitar player. I felt that same chill. And, to me, they’re angels. And I think you know who they are. Those guys, I think they’re looking down, or they’re looking around us, with us, and I think they’re digging what they’re seeing, man. I really do. And that’s the only kind of way I can look at it, and get as close as we can with Charlie and Zakk. And God, it’s getting really, really good. And there’s so much more potential to get even tighter.”
Speaking about the opportunity to perform PANTERA‘s music to new generations of fans who never saw the band before, Rex said: “There’s a lot of memories in this band that are hard to put down. And losing the brothers, I just never in a million years thought that something like that would happen. Here we are 22 years later, and to see these new fans’ faces. You’ve got one kid sitting there, or man, woman or child crying, and you have this other guy just going, ‘You did it right.’ It’s just amazing.”
In April, Rex told Rolling Stone Australia about performing with PANTERA in 2024: “Two of our beloved brothers that just aren’t here anymore man, that’s life, you know? They’re just not with us man. That’s just fate; it’s the way the ball rolls, dude.”
He added: “This is no tribute band — Philip and I get to play these songs of ours that we haven’t played in 23 years. And to be able to do that and connect with the enormity of what’s happened is just extraordinarily fucking insane, you know?”
Regarding PANTERA‘s latest additions, Rex said: “We knew who would fit and who wouldn’t. We knew what the obstacles were in front of us, and we knew after… I’ll put it this way — Charlie and I came down in September [2022] before we played that [first] show in December [2022], and we have probably one hundred hours of tape of us playing every fucking PANTERA song that I could remember. And so, you know, me and Charlie lockin’ in like that… the drummer and the bass player, that’s your foundation. So when Zakk came in, there were certain things we had to go over and over and over, to get tight. And today, this band is about as tight and about as badass as I fucking want. You know what I mean, and that’s all I’m gonna say on that.”
“But, man, this band is on fuckin’ fire, and I couldn’t be happier, man,” he added. “I just can’t explain that as much as I need to, I could not be happier.”
Rex previously told AndrewHaug.com that he was “absolutely” open to writing new music with the reformed version of PANTERA. “Yeah, I could tell you more but I’m not going to,” he teased.
Earlier in the chat, Brown talked about what is has been like to go out and perform as PANTERA to a whole new generation of fans.
“You can’t see it on the YouTube. You can’t feel that vibe until you actually come to the show,” he explained. “And we haven’t been doing interviews just for the fact we want people just to come to the show. It’s not about anything prior past or present that I wanna talk about today — just the show tonight.
“We’re pinching ourselves over these new fans that have never seen this before, and it’s a whole another generation that we either didn’t know a) that were out there, b) that were still listening to us, and the turnout has just been unbelievable,” Rex continued. “Of course, at first you had the naysayers and all that stuff, and as we played gig by gig, it’s made us tighter. And I’ve been trying to rehearse this band as much as I can within schedules, and we’ll just go down for no fucking reason and just jam. That’s what makes a band tight.”
Asked how it feels playing those “timeless” songs again, Rex told AndrewHaug.com: “You just said it — they’re timeless. So getting to play them again is a… These were a big part of Philip and I’s songs too. Of course, respect to the brothers. I think that looking down on us and giving us a big — and they’re with us. It’s just uncanny. That’s the glue. Those guys are hanging around with us.
“Look, I’m not some crazy old man, man. I know that we’re here for reasons,” Rex added. “And this time he gave us a heavy load, and we have come through in spades. And I’m very proud of Charlie and Zakk and Phillip for stepping up… All of us [were very close back in the day]. We were intertwined. There was a close-knit family of friends — Jerry Cantrell and all those guys, ALICE IN CHAINS. We were all brothers and we all had each other’s backs — even as fucked up as we got. We’re fine now, I’ll put it that way. But it’s just such a different time and we’re older men and can appreciate this more. And I feel 25 years younger, man. It’s just insane.”
Addressing complaints from some fans that Brown and Anselmo are going out and touring under the PANTERA name even though Dimebag and Vinnie Paul are not involved, Rex said: “I don’t call it anything. I call it PANTERA. The show itself is a celebration of the lives of all four of us. Two are sadly not with us, and we cannot bring them back. God, do I want them back. But that’s just not possible. So we’re doing the best thing that we can to keep our music alive. And I think they’re smiling down and saying, ‘You guys are doing all right, man.’ And they’re with us. And I’m not shittin’ you.”
Asked what his initial thoughts were when he was first approached about relaunching PANTERA as a touring act, Rex said: “Philip and I talked for several months before. He got on the phone and said, ‘Hey, man, you wanna do it? I didn’t have — maybe a six-second… not a hesitation, but just to wrap my head around the full gravity of the enormity of it. I went, ‘Okay, I’ve got a couple of questions.’ And, man, ever since that call we’ve worked really, really hard to get this thing going. And we’ve jumped over a lot of mountains.”
Up until his passing in June 2018, Vinnie remained on non-speaking terms with Anselmo, whom the drummer indirectly blamed for Dimebag‘s death.
Vinnie Paul and Dimebag co-founded PANTERA. On December 8, 2004, while performing with DAMAGEPLAN at the Alrosa Villa in Columbus, Ohio, Dimebag was shot and killed onstage by a troubled schizophrenic who believed that the members of PANTERA were stealing his thoughts.
Vinnie, who was Dimebag‘s brother, and Anselmo had not spoken since PANTERA split in 2003. But the relationship got even more acrimonious when Vinnie suggested that some remarks the vocalist had made about Dimebag in print just weeks earlier might have incited Dimebag‘s killer.